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Ingvild Roald Date: Thu Feb 8, 2001 11:43 am Subject: Re: Brazilian Sign | |
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Dear Valerie, and all the rest of the list, I know this is the way we have been writing, based on Valeries work and ideas, and I did in no way mean to for her ot feel sad about anything I said. But let's rest the matter for a while, as you suggest, and try to discuss other topics. Ingvild >From: Valerie Sutton >Reply-To: SignWriting List >To: SignWriting List >Subject: Re: Brazilian Sign >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:27:57 -0800 > >Charles Butler wrote: >> If my writing is 25 years old--and still readable after 25 years, >>then there is something >>>seriously wrong with a new system that can look at my old handshapes and >>>declare them "unreadable" under a new system. > >Ingvild wrote: >>This is what I thought too. >>I completely agree. >>Ingvild > > > >SignWriting List >February 7, 2001 > >Actually Charles and Ingvild, I feel vindicated by this, and I like >your diagram, Charles, which I have attached again...It is an >excellent way to describe the way we have been writing all these >years. The only thing that makes me feel bad is that you said it was >your system and only yours. Haven't we all been writing that way for >25 years? I know I have. And I like it too, probably because I am >used to it... > >And no one said yours was "unreadable"...the signs are perfectly >readable! It just depends on which theory one chooses...each theory >is different... > >This subject has been upsetting me for over 6 months. I did not want >to make rules on this, but others wanted rules, and I could not pin >down a lot of things we were doing because it is too close to me and >my thinking and making rules on one's thinking can be hard sometimes. >So your diagram helps pin down why the old ASL signs in our >dictionary are written the way they are.....that is a great help! > >Meanwhile I have not explained any of the newer theories properly >from my perspective...I am still working on them, and even if they >work...I would be perfectly happy if you continue to write just as >you have for the past 25 years. I know the old way works because we >have fluent readers who are reading those signs. > >So no one is wrong. If we have three or four theories going...we are >just trying things out to see what works. Some countries may stick >with one method and that is OK with me, and I respect their choices. > >So I guess I am going to have to stop talking about this right now, >because it makes me feel sad. Feel free to change the topic, someone, >and ask other technical questions....we can come back to this issue >at a later time. > >Here is Charles' diagram, which is the best description I have seen >of how we were thinking in the past 25 years... ><< _Orientat.jpg >> ><< Orientat.jpg >> |
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