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From:  Charles Butler
Date:  Tue Oct 20, 1998  5:16 am
Subject:  Re: SW in Vertical Columns


Valerie Sutton wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, Charles Butler wrote:
>
> One has to add at minimum a shoulder line and neck line to show the
> shift in characters between the master and the servant. That shoulder
> and neck line is on the keyboard now, so one could at least get a rough
> draft of it. Full Mime Writing is a bit more complex, but this may give
> you a start.
> ________________________________
>
> October 23, 1998
> Hello Everyone - and thanks Charles for the message above, which is true.
> But there are some new developments coming into SignWriting now, which I am
> looking forward to sharing with you.
>
> And as always, it is hard to explain writing movement in English! So later,
> through the grammar lesson scheduled to be posted, and also through the new
> advanced documents, you will see and grasp the new changes I am sure.
>
> To explain briefly....before we wrote horizontally, not vertically. And the
> shoulder line was very necessary to write certain gestures when we wrote
> horizontally. But vertical writing is bringing in a new perspective which
> is very exciting. I cannot thank Lucinda Batch enough for suggesting
> writing down the page years ago...it has been a major blessing for writing
> signed languages.
>
> And of course when writing "shrugging a shoulder" or something like that -
> the shoulder line is still needed to show the movements of the shoulders
> themselves.
>
> But as far as using the shoulder lines as markers for other things, like
> spatial comparisons, or location, that is changing. As we started to write
> down the page, the facial circle has become much more the marking system,
> and there are other new details as well. So I hope you will look at the
> next grammar lesson I post, which will explain some of this. It is
> scheduled for November 2......Writing ASL Grammar, Lesson 2: Writing
> Spatial Comparisons.
>
> Thanks, Charles, for your input -
>
> Valerie :-)
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Valerie Sutton at the DAC
> Deaf Action Committee for SW
>
> SignWriting
>
> http://www.SignWriting.org
>
> Center For Sutton Movement Writing
> an educational nonprofit organization
> Box 517, La Jolla, CA, 92038-0517, USA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For writing the song i suggested, the shoulders slant each way, and the
head moves, so for me the shoulder and the head line sort of go
together. I will be curious as to see the new developments in sign
language grammar for us "old hands" in the system.

All you pen pals, look for letter from me in the mail. Hope you enjoy
them. I've done my best to write vertically, though I learned Sign
Writing "thousands" of years ago when it was written differently, both
receptively and horizontally.

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