|SignWriting List Forum|
Joe Martin |
Date: Mon Jan 11, 1999 1:15 am
Subject: Re: actors
I hate to throw a wet blanket on things, but I see this thread drifting
off into linguistic never-never land. So I gave you your answer---but I
posted it to Sling-l! (they're the ones that're supposed to like this kind
of arcana) (maybe we should all go do our housework!!))
On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Cecelia Smith wrote:
> ahhh, you picked a good one here.
> DON'T KNOW DON'T LIKE DON'T WANT DON'T CARE
> Those four signs, which require two English words to gloss, are very
> interesting to me morphologically.
> The first three start with a part of an actual sign (KNOW, LIKE, WANT) And
> are negated by a specific movement that brings in negation. DON'T CARE does
> not have that readily identifiable part (CARE) but still has the negation
> part. What is that thing on the nose mean? CARE???? I don't think so.
> But the whole sign means "DON'T CARE" ... HMMMmmmmmm interesting
> Are they compounds? I think so. But what about DON'T CARE -- what is that
> from? And what is the negation thing.. that is ONLY found in these limited
> signs. (if you know of any others, let me know. I'd really like to find
> Sometimes, I think the negation part of these signs must be a remnant left
> from a much earlier version of the Sign Language we use... much like the
> prefix "luke" as in "lukewarm" What is luke? And it is ONLY found when
> describing temperature, and then only with a level of warm. And then there is
> still "DON'T CARE"
> Also notice that the negation is specifically identified to mean DON'T ..
> which is itself a compound of meaning Do and Not ..... can we
> complicate things more?
> But your question... was are they 2 signs. No. A compound in Sign Language
> is not two signs anymore than a compound in English is two words. They are
> produced as one unit, that's what makes them a compound. Like the English
> word "cupboard" is a compound of cup and board, and is pronounced more like
> "kabird" and not "cup-board"
> another 2 cents. Can you tell I'm avoiding doing housework?
> Cecelia Smith (~_~)
> (who read her last message and remembered the concept of Spell Check)
> In a message dated 1/10/99 5:12:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > You guys are going to educate me despite myself.
> > So then "don't know" in sign language is two symbols?