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From:  Susanne Bentele
Date:  Fri Jan 29, 1999  8:37 am
Subject:  Re: Notation Systems

>On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Susanne wrote:
>>Has anyone compared different notation systems for signed languages as to
>>different purposes for different systems? I mean, for example, SignWriting
>>is obviously used to actually write things down for people to read.
>>HamNoSys on the other hand, and other systems too, are aimed more at the
>>linguistic side of the language. Its main purpose is to transcribe signs in
>>order to analyse them.
>>Universität Hamburg
>Then I responded....
>>>But when it comes to comparing SignWriting with other linguistically based
>>>systems, there has been little done, mainly because SignWriting is so
>>>different. I have always felt it was like comparing apples with oranges. I
>>>do have a few student papers that made comparisons with other
>>>linguistically based systems. I cannot say that the authors were experts,
>>>but I will be happy to look for those papers and send them to you if you
>>>wish. One was written at Brown University, by a student in the linguistics
>>>department there. If you are interested, I will write to her to ask her
>>>permission, and then send it on to you.
>January 28, 1999
>So I am sorry to say I do not have any true comparisons to give you :-(

What a pity - I was really looking forward to that... But never mind -
we'll make our own.... :-)

>My question is this...perhaps we could do something similar comparing
>HamNoSys, Stokoe and SignWriting? I would be happy to post the comparison
>on our SignWriting Web Site. Is there anyone who is skilled in Stokoe or
>HamNoSys, who would be willing to work with me on this? Perhaps one of the
>linguists on the SignWriting List? I think we should try one short sentence
>in ASL. Once we have a Stokoe and HamNoSys volunteer, we can decide which
>sentence to write, as a team, and then send each other examples as attached
>files through email.

Yes, I'd volunteer on the HamNoSys part. I do not know enough of Stokoe (or
adaptions of Stokoe) so I cannot do that one...
However, I do not sogn ASL so you/someone would have to post me the
sentence in pictures/verbal descriptions/QuickTime movies or something of
the like. But that won't be too big a problem I would think.

>Thanks for your interest, Susanne, and I hope in time it will be easy for
>us to direct people to an accurate comparison on the web!

Yes, I hope so! It's a good idea, especially for newbees who don't exactly
know what kind of system they would need for their respective purpose.

>Best -

Susanne Bentele
Universität Hamburg
Institut für Deutsche Gebärdensprache und Kommunikation Gehörloser
University of Hamburg
Institute of German Sign Language and Communication of the Deaf
Binderstr. 34
20146 Hamburg - Germany
Tel.: ++49-40-428.38-6734
Geschäftszimmer: ++49-40-428.38-6737
ST: ++49-40-428.38-6738
Fax: ++49-40-428.38-6109

  Replies Author Date
955 Re: Notation Systems Valerie Sutton Sat  1/30/1999
957 Re: Notation Systems Susanne Bentele Sat  1/30/1999

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