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Valerie Sutton Date: Wed Jun 23, 1999 1:33 pm Subject: In-Between Palm Facings | ||||||||||||||||
>On Thu, 27 May 1999, Ingvild Roald wrote: >Valerie and I have been discussing what to do when hands are neither >palm down or palm to the side, but rather 45 degrees. In NSL the >HOUSE is made by both hands pointing forwards, and then making the >slope of the roof and then the walls. We have not discussed this >sign, but the signs for BOAT and PLOW (for snow), which is a pair, >both hands pointing 45 degrees forwards and finger tips meeting, and >in BOAT the middle and the ringfinger's tips would touch, but in >the PLOW the middle and the index finger's tips would touch. We >talked about making the black part of the hands broader or slimmer, >to denote this. I think that as the size of the printed signs get >smaller, this will be complicated, and suggest another soultion: >place the touch-star over / under the touching tips of the hands, for >the two signs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ June 23, 1999 Hello Ingvild - Thank you for this great paragraph, which relieved me of much stress! I remember our conversation years ago about "in-between palm facings", and I had planned to put the symbols into SignWriter 5.0. Then I became concerned about another issue....it would not only increase the amount of symbols, it would also increase the amount of "tapping on the keys" to find the palm facing you need. Right now we tap up to 6 times to find 6 palm facings - with "in-between palm facings" we would tap up to 10 times to find 10 palm facings. For those on the SW List, who wonder what we are talking about (grin), SignWriting is a flexible writing system that if written by hand, has tremendous visual variation. But when designing a computer program for typing those variations, we have to decide what variations we want to include, and what variations are not that important for general communication. The 6 palm facings that are included in SignWriter 4.3 seem to be enough for us to communicate. We have a "view of the palm, side and back of the hand" on two planes. That makes 6. The in-between palm facings add a "view of the diagonal position of the hand" - between palm and side, and between side and back. Although diagonal views of the hands are useful for research, for everyday use it seems we can "get by" without them. As Ingvild pointed out above, by placing contact stars in certain positions, she was able to convey the communication in another way. If you are curious to see all the palm facings...go to these pages on the web: Sign-Symbol-Sequence https://www.SignWriting.org/sss001.html Lesson 2: Hands, Part One https://www.SignWriting.org/hand001.html Have a great day everyone! Valerie :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Valerie Sutton SignWriting https://www.SignWriting.org The DAC, Deaf Action Committee for SW Center For Sutton Movement Writing an educational nonprofit organization Box 517, La Jolla, CA, 92038-0517, USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ||||||||||||||||
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