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Lourdes Tollette Date: Tue Nov 9, 1999 4:08 pm Subject: Re: Writing Spatial Relationships | |
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Val, One thing I would like to ask you, How you sign for "Dog" because it need to use for full-body SW. So Do I have to do this full-body for "Dog" sign? Lourdes -----Original Message----- From: Valerie Sutton [SMTP:] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 10:52 AM To: SignWriting List Subject: Re: Writing Spatial Relationships >A rather large group of Norwegian signers wanted the >shoulders or the face to present in alomost all signs, and they also >wanted the 'simultanous' symbol not to be written unless that could >lead to a misunderstanding. Also, if the two hands move together as a >classifier, we will use only one movement arrow with the open >arrowhead, regardless of whether these two hands 'paint the same path'. >Ingvild ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Everyone - I am supposed to be doing other work - ha! But Ingvild's message was so interesting I can't stop thinking about it (smile)... It is nice to know that a large group of Norwegian signers wanted the "Full-Body SignWriting"..... That is a stick figure drawing, with shoulders and arms... Full-Body SignWriting (in the middle of this web page) https://www.SignWriting.org/hist008.html Are people still using the Full-Body SW in Norway? That is how we started in Denmark, and they are still using it as far as I know.... Discussions about the Simultaneous Line, and writing one arrow instead of two when the movements are on parallel paths, have come up quite a bit in the past... As you know, the Danes opted for both those changes... I suspect the point about the Simultaneous Line is a valid one...only writing it when it can be confused with something else is a good solution..it is a little like the Danes only wanting to write Touch when it is absolutely necessary... What matters is what can be read properly...and writing systems historically have to go through this simplification process to get something that is easy to use on a daily basis....and of course it is confusing for the first generation of writers... By the way, writing spatial relationships has nothing to do with the changes discussed in this message....the spatial relationship between body parts and movement symbols is not language per se...it is Movement Writing based on planes, which gives ease in reading, but is not language itself.... Val ;-) |
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