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From:  Ingvild Roald
Date:  Fri Aug 4, 2000  12:57 am
Subject:  Re: Eyegaze


In my oppinion it might make sense to keep the receptive viewpoint for the
use in a dialogue - when someone is addressing me. Also, for the writing
from a live signing - it might not always be time to do the trick of
reversing. But maybe this is not so. I think time will show, at that we had
better not throw anyting out untill things are more setteled.

Ingvild


>From: Stefan Woehrmann
>Reply-To: SignWriting List
>To: SignWriting List
>Subject: Re: Eyegaze
>Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:53:02 +0200
>
>Hi Valerie ,
>
>do you think it is important to "save" the symbols for the "receptive"
>viewpoint - together with the ones for the "expressive" viewpoint which has
>become the "natural" basis for SW ?
>
>Iīd rather forget about them in order to get not confused or in order to
>not
>confuse the beginners (???)
>
>Valerie wrote: In real life, the eyes can really only go back diagonally,
>but not straight back...
>
>hhm back ? but not straight back ???
>I think of my eyes as positioned at the back-wall -there is no way to go
>back with my eye-gazes - in case I donīt move my head to the left or right
>-
>instead of that I can look almost straight sideways if I really try (but
>canīt see anything sharp - ouch!!)
>forward diagonally up down, left , right - no problem - but back - how do
>you do that ??? ;-)
>Iīm planning to shoot photos on facial expressions for reasons of
>demonstration - if you are interested I can attach them to a private note
>!?
>
>All the best - behind the scenes ?;-)
>
>Stefan
>
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Valerie Sutton
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 3:58 PM
>Subject: Eyegaze
>
>
> > On 8/2/00, Ingvild Roald wrote:
> > >Just one remark: I believe the 'backward' eyegaze is for receptive
>writing.
> >
> >
> >
> > SignWriting List
> > August 2, 2000
> >
> > Good morning, everyone ;-)
> >
> > Glad to see you are starting video transcription again...Your
> > writings are well written and I am looking forward to writing my
> > version soon...
> >
> > In regards to eyegaze...Ingvild is correct to say that the "back"
> > eyegaze becomes "front" eyegaze, when writing receptively...In other
> > words, some symbols are used more in one viewpoint than the other.
> >
> > Attached are the existing eyegaze symbols...described from the
> > Expressive Viewpoint. In real life, the eyes can really only go back
> > diagonally, but not straight back...so the "back" position is not
> > used in Expressive:
> >
> >

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