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Charles Butler Date: Tue Jan 22, 2002 11:18 pm Subject: Re: ZURICH: Some general questions | |||||
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single finger in a diagonal plane. 1) For the fist, I would show a wrist flex to show the orientation of the palm of the fist pointing to the non-dominant side for the first position, then a turn out and up to the final position, with the wrist line giving a clear orientation of the fist upright and palm facing outward. 2) For the finger on the diagonal plane, I thought that one of the options that was discussed was to put the "spot" for closer or the "line" for away, directly on the finger to indicate its relative diagonal in the plane perpendicular to the body. The arrow starts off thick and the top and thin at the bottom to show the same thing, movement in a straight line down and out. These are my first tries at the queries, using rules which have been discussed before without creating anything new. Charles Butler ----- Original Message ----- From: Valerie Sutton To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: ZURICH: Some general questions Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 From: Penny Braem Subject: Zurich - some general questions Dear Val, Here are some general questions that have cropped us as the Noah notation went along: 1. In closed fist handshapes (with the thumb crossed over the fingers), is there a way to differentiate between different orientations of the thumbtip? In the DSGS sign for goat, for example, the fist is placed on the chin, palm facing the body, with the crossed-over thumbtip pointing to the nondominant (left) side; the hand then moves in a downward curve out from the body, ending with the palm facing away and thumbtip up. Another DSGS sign is made at the same location, with the same handshape and palm orientation, but with the thumbtip pointed up (like in the ASL sign at the forehead for DUMB, or the orientation of the hand for the ASL sign for WRONG). 2. In notating sign text, do you already have some convention to show that a sign is held by one hand through the production of following signs? Just to notate it with a normal handshape symbol seems somewhat odd, as it looks like it's a part of the formation of the current sign, rather than the continuation (holding) of a previous sign. We can use PhotoShop to make the ,retained' sign grayer or something. But maybe there is some way to show this directly in SW? 3.We are uncertain how to notate a movement which goes between two planes (for example, in sentence 2 'lava flowing' moves both forward and from high to low; or in Sent. 12 in which the pointing index sign (IX) has a diagonal forward and down orientation of the fingertip as well as movement ...) Do you have to combine the two symbols for forwards and downwards, or do you have some symbol to add to the forwards arrow, to show that it is also downwards? | |||||
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