Joe Martin has some very good points, and has explained the situation well 
about whether 
SignWriting is an alphabet or not. I think he's right; SignWriting is more 
finely-analyzed even than an alphabet. 
 
Albert Bickford 
 
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(my contribution gets thicker here, but some may be interested in the points 
of similarities and differences in what Joe and I were talking about, and 
why I think his understanding is better than mine was. If you're one of 
these, read on...) 
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I hadn't heard of the concept of a 'featural' orthography before (not 
knowing that any spoken language orthographies analyzed things that finely), 
but that does seem to be the right way to characterize SignWriting, better 
than calling it "alphabetic" (=segmental). By comparison, the roman alphabet 
is mostly segmental, although when applied in some languages there are extra 
symbols called 'diacritics' or 'accent marks' that represent individual 
features. But, in SignWriting, almost every feature (movement, orientation, 
handshape, even position of individual fingers and different parts of the 
face) has its own symbol. This makes it possible to write down a HUGE number 
of possible signs with relatively few symbols. 
 
Now, whether a featural writing system is "better" than an alphabetic one, 
or both better than a syllabic one, or vice versa--I'm not prepared to say. 
There are advantages to each. Plus, even the best writing systems have 
problems, usually because they represent compromises among many different 
factors. (The members of the D.A.C. could probably tell us a LOT about 
that!) But, SignWriting seems to work reasonably well, and that's what's 
important. 
 
There are some themes that are in common between Joes' posting and mine 
(although he expressed them better), and some other recent postings. Let me 
try and summarize some of them, and I'll take the liberty to add a couple 
more too, that I think most readers of this list will agree with. (If I'm 
wrong, let us see what you think!) 
- SignWriting is not pictographic; thus, it is not like the Chinese writing 
system. SignWriting represents the way that a word is signed in a particular 
language, not its meaning. 
- The classification of a writing system is independent of whether the 
language being represented is signed or oral. Thus, SignWriting is BOTH 
cheirographic AND featural. The Roman alphabet used for English is both 
phonographic AND alphabetic. 
- Signed languages are different from spoken languages, and special in their 
own right. They require a special writing system, not just an attempt to 
adapt the roman alphabet to work with signed languages (like some earlier 
attempts at writing signed languages). 
- SignWriting is designed so that it is practical as a writing system for 
everyday use, not just research 
- Ultimately, SignWriting will be shaped by the people who use it most. I 
applaud everyone who is doing so! 
 
Albert 
 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Joe Martin  
To: SignWriting List   
Date: Thursday, July 02, 1998 10:49 AM 
Subject: Re: Nixograms 
 
 
>Whether the language it represents is manual or oral I think is kind of 
>trivial; writing systems are classified by how they represent the 
>linguistic structure of the language. The three basic ways are by the 
>syllablic, segmental, or featural. This last class is represented by 
>Pittman shorthand, and in part by the Cree/Inuit syllabary and also 
>Korean HanGul--which is widely held to be the most perfect orthography 
>known. Seems to me that SignWriting exemplifies this principle even more. 
> 
>So that's my take on this thing; if Albert or anybody is still reading 
>this, what do you think? Hello? Hello? Anybody? 
 
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