Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 12:27
SignWriting List Forum
Subject: Re: Help available to develop a LUC ?
no, I am definitely not looking for another language; I think, that we have
enough of them in the world. Although I appreciate dialects like "Plattdeutsch"
as I am from the North of Germany, I am looking for an easy way of
international communication, skipping the borders of different languages.
Communication between people of different languages without having to learn the
other language or translating into the other language.
The more advanced vision:
....without even knowing, how to manage a computer...
I input the meaning "Help me" in what ever language, and a person in South
Africa understands (sees, hears, ...) this message in her language e.g. Zulu.
>On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:23:09 Valerie Sutton >wrote:
>February 6, 2000
>The confusion people oftentimes have, in regards to SignWriting, is
>that they assume SignWriting is a "universal language". But actually
>SignWriting is not a language...it is just an alphabet that can be
>used to write signed languages that existed long before SignWriting
>So technically, there is no "American SignWriting"..instead there is
>American Sign Language, which is a naturally evolved signed language
>used by Deaf people. SignWriting can be used to write American Sign
>Language, but the language itself exists whether SignWriting was ever
>invented or not...
>Actually I suspect that you are really looking for something like
>Bliss Symbols, which is a visual "concept writing" system. And the
>Unicode specialist who is working with placing SignWriting into
>Unicode, Michael Everson, who is a member of the SignWriting List, is
>also working with the inventors of Bliss Symbols. So I would suggest
>that you communicate with Michael about that...
>In regards to signed languages...it is important that they remain
>individual languages, since each signed language is rich with its own
>grammar and structure, its own folklore and culture - so the concept
>of an international signed language is a mistake from the hearing
>world...Hearing people got the misunderstanding that the purpose of
>signed languages was to be an "international language". But actually
>the purpose of signed languages is for day-to-day communication
>between Deaf people in a local area. Why would a Deaf person in
>Chile, use the same signed language as a Deaf person in Malaysia?
>They would never have contact with each other so their cultures and
>languages are not the same.
>But Bliss Symbols is not based on any spoken or signed language...or
>any culture for that matter. Instead it was developed I believe for
>people who cannot communicate any other way, and Michael Everson has
>told me a little about it...and I think it is fascinating...they have
>structure and sentences too...but all based on visual "concept
>Marc Bode wrote before:
>> When I first heard, that even the signed language is not
>>international, I was quite disappointed. But this fact even more
>>requests the availability of a LUC!
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