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From:  Bill Reese
Date:  Wed Aug 23, 2000  1:47 pm
Subject:  Re: Pledge Alligiance in SW


When you left out "under God", you returned the pledge to it's pre-1954 form.

"Under God" was added by Congress in 1954 at President Eisenhower's urging.

A short history at the britannica site:\

This pledge is also spoken at other places than the schools. I found it to be
in conflict with another allegiance so I stopped reciting it. A person can
only have one master. Be careful which you chose. ;-)

Bill Reese

"Angus B. Grieve-Smith" wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Stefan Woehrmann wrote:
> > please can you do me the favor to explain "various types of pledges"
> > the Pledge of Allegiance "die Bürgschaft der Untertanentreue"
> Hi Stefan! I figured someone from outside the US would eventually
> ask what was being discussed.
> The "Pledge of Allegiance" is a rather fascistic ritual that was
> begun in the 1890s: every public school classroom in the US has a flag,
> and every morning before class begins, schoolchildren stand up and salute
> it, and recite the following words:
> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
> and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
> indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
> I found a German translation at <>:
> Ich verspreche Treue zu der Fahne der Vereinigten Staaten von
> Amerika und der Republick die sie representiert, eine Nation unter
> God, mit Freiheit und Gerechtigkeit fur alle.
> Most American children have no idea what they are saying, so it
> comes out, mumbled and fumbled, sounding more like this:
> I led the pigeons to the flag of the United States of America, and
> to the Republic, for Richard Stans, one nation under God,
> invisible, with liver, tea and just us for all.
> The children I worked with in Lorraine's class at Chapparal seemed
> to be just as clueless as the hearing children: for them it was a series
> of gestures that everyone had to make before class started in the morning.
> I think Nancy is thinking about using the pledge in SignWriting to
> help the kids analyze it and get more of a sense of what they are actually
> saying. When I was about ten I started thinking about it, and decided to
> stop saying the words "under God." I also wondered what would happen if
> someone put a little speaker inside the flagpole: would we have to obey
> what the flag told us to do?
> --
> -Angus B. Grieve-Smith
> Linguistics Department
> The University of New Mexico

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