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Valerie Sutton Date: Mon Nov 13, 2000 11:48 pm Subject: Re: OK! I need your opinions ;-)).... | |
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On 11/13/00, Stefan Woehrmann wrote: >great idea to involve the people who are working with your system day by day >;-) SignWriting List November 13, 2000 Yes - I always include those who write day by day - as I have done for 25 years...otherwise we wouldn't have the writing system we have!! And in this case, I presented the dots long ago...to lots of people in the early 1990's, plus to you too... The people I talked to in the 1990's felt it was too hard to write by hand... the dark square with the light dot...just as Ingvild expressed in an earlier message yesterday.... So in 1995, for the Second Edition of the Lessons in SignWriting textbook, and for SignWriter 4.3...I chose not to add to our symbol set...that was 1995.... But I consider the Second Edition out-of-date now - but of course I know there is nothing you can do about that until I finish the third edition! But don't quote the Second Edition as if it is God - I don't follow it myself.... Now in regards to when we talked about it on the SignWriting List...it was on February 25th...please read this entire page...at the bottom it shows the hand position you are asking about with the thumb... Message About Protruding Fingers, February 25, 2000 https://www.SignWriting.org/lessons/elessons/less019.html Tomorrow, in another message, I will explain some of the problems with all this - no symbol is perfect because when we use the dots, it is hard to show that the thumb tip is touching something - The sign for "father" for example, in ASL, loses a lot of the visual feeling of thumb-touching the forehead...because it is a dot and you can't place the contact star right on the tip...kids read the thumb line faster in ASL as far as I can tell, but we have not tested this enough to really give us some data. That is why we have been writing lines for fingers - it is easier to see some positions with the finger lines, and other times the dots are nice - in other words - there are exceptions no matter which version we choose - and that is why rules are only partially perfect... I have a dear dear friend in the hospital, and I am worried sick over her - She is one of the most skilled DanceWriters and SignWriters we have and I must go visit her in the hospital - I will try to get back to your messages tomorrow - Meanwhile...I am curious...the deaf class at SignNet...what do you think of the dots? You were arguing about how to write the lines...I am curious what a group of Deaf adults thinks of the dots versus the lines? Many thanks for your feedback everyone, and thanks Stefan, for your contribution to this topic - you have been terrific! -- Val ;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Valerie Sutton Visit the SignWritingSite: https://www.SignWriting.org |
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