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From:  Valerie Sutton
Date:  Mon May 28, 2001  2:38 pm
Subject:  Re: ASL-Libras-English-Portuguese Dictionary


SignWriting List
May 28, 2001

Hello Charles...
Thank you for referring to the Lessons in SignWriting textbook for
the Sign-Symbol-Sequence (see below).

It will take some time for the Sequence to become "perfect". We all
may agree that some changes need to be made in the future...At this
time, we don't have enough experience with Deaf children using
dictionaries, to know the best sequence...

And there may be differences between countries and signed languages
that will require different sequences for different countries too...I
hope that is not the case...but I guess we need more experience. Your
dictionary certainly will help that experiment move forward...

When your dictionary has a few print-outs, you might share them with
a group of Deaf signers, and ask them to see if they can look-up
signs with no difficulty. Keep notes on this process...I have done
this a little bit here, and so far people have not had any problems
finding signs. Small dictionaries are no problem. It is large
dictionaries that will be the test...

Val ;-)


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On 5/23/01, Charles Butler wrote:

>>I will be loading up a review of the sequencing system (based on
>>the "Lessons in Sign Writing" book) that I am using for ordering
>>the Libras/Portuguese version soon.

Essentially:

1) Hands first, starting with the primary hand. Group signs by Groups 1-10.

2) Second, orientation, following face-reader, side view, back view,
face-reader-parallel-to-floor, side-view-parallel-to-floor,
back-view-parallel to floor.

3) Rotation, counterclockwise (or clockwise if the writer is
left-handed) (signs in this dictionary are written right-hand-primary
for consistency)

4) Head location (if indicated), top view, top-of-head,
top-left-side-of-head, top-right-side-of-head, left eye, right eye,
left ear, left side of face, nose, upper lip, right lower face, chin,
left lower face.

5) Body location (if body indicated), top, middle, bottom (if second
line included) (so far no signs on the back, though one sign for
"wallet" would include a back view. Legs (if necessary)

6) Upper arms, followed by lower arms

7) Legs

8) Contact

9) Hand movement (joints)

10) Arm movement (side-to-side, up-and-down, in-and-out, rotations
(same order, multiple times are within the same area)

11) Facial expression (separate from head location-sometimes a
second head is necessary to indicate a distinct facial expression as
opposed to a facial location).

12) Speed

(Not all 12 indicators are necessary for all signs, but that seems to
cover all the parameters) <<

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