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From:  Charles Butler
Date:  Fri Jun 22, 2001  2:04 am
Subject:  Re: Sign-Symbol-Sequence (SSS)


For the discussion, using your chart 6 across and 8 down, the SSS variant I
am using labels these 48 positions with

01 - right index finger palm toward reader, pointing up, considered 0
degrees
02 - right index finger palm toward reader, pointing 45 degrees
counterclockwise
03 - right index finger palm toward reader, pointing 90 degrees
counteclockwise
04 - right index finger palm toward reader, pointing 135 degrees
counterclockwise
05 - right index finger palm toward reader, pointing 180 degrees
counterclockwise
06 - right index finger palm toward reader, pointing 225 degrees
counterclockwise
07 - right index finger palm toward reader, pointing 270 degrees
counterclockwise
08 - right index finger palm toward reader, pointing 315 degrees
counterclockwise

09 - right index finger palm facing left, pointing up, considered 0 degrees
10 - right index finger palm facing left, pointing 45 degrees
counterclockwise
....
17 - right index finger palm away from reader, pointing up, considered 0
degrees
18 - right index finger palm away from reader, pointing up, 45 degrees
counterclockwise
....
25 - right index finger palm toward reader, hand extending outward,
considered 0 degrees
26 - right index finger palm toward reader, hand extending outward, 45
degrees counterclockwise
....
33 - right index finger palm facing left, hand extending outward, considered
0 degrees
....
41 - right index finger palm away from reader, hand extended outward,
considered 0 degrees
....
48 - right index finger palm away from reader, hand extended outward, 315
degrees counterclockwise.

This presumes a cataloguing system based on right-hand dominant, or
actually, right hand facing the reader on another person's hands. Since the
writing system was originally created looking at another person's hands,
this system makes sense from that history, as the system would be read "left
to right" but "left" would be the other person's "right" hand, however,
looking at a sign on the page, as currently published, the most logical 01
position for the current writing system always reading left to right would
be the left hand facing the reader as position 01. Currently, the SSS
system will be (for the left hand), if I am following the SSS logic.

49 (logically) is left index finger palm facing the reader, pointing up,
considered 0 degrees
50 is left index finger palm facing the reader, 45 degrees CLOCKWISE (toward
the center line)
51 is left index finger palm facing the reader, 90 degrees clockwise (toward
the center line)
52 is left index finger palm facing the reader, 135 degrees clockwise
(toward the center line)
53 is left index finger palm facing the reader, 180 degrees clockwise
54 is left index finger palm facing the reader, 225 degrees clockwise
55 is left index finger palm facing the reader, 270 degrees clockwise
56 is left index finger palm facing the reader, 315 degrees clockwise
....
96 is left index finger palm away from the reader, pointing outward, 315
degrees clockwise.

(This was the first decision the SignNet dictionary project had to make.
All signs were changed to "right-hand dominant" for ease of cataloguing) and
hand position 01 is the right hand facing the reader pointing upward.)

----- Original Message -----
From: Valerie Sutton
To:
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: Sign-Symbol-Sequence (SSS)


> SignWriting List
> June 22, 2001
>
> The first handshape is the Index Hand with a tight, closed fist.
>
> This one handshape has 48 possible positions....6 palm facings across
> and 8 rotations down:


  Replies Author Date
5164 2-Volume Encyclopedia of Brazilian Signs!! Valerie Sutton Sat  6/23/2001
5165 Re: Sign-Symbol-Sequence (SSS) Valerie Sutton Sat  6/23/2001

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