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Valerie Sutton Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 2:14 pm Subject: Re: Lucky | ||||||||
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> I think I understand what the problem is! When you see those >curved arrows, do you see them going behind or in front of the straight >arrow? I've been seeing them as going in front (which would mean that >your arrows would describe the middle finger brushing from left to right >instead of right to left). So you intended them to go behind... > > Also, why did you choose to put a touching symbol rather than a >brushing symbol, and why only one? SignWriting List July 5, 2000 Hello Everyone, and Angus! As you know, although I sign conversationally in ASL, I am still a foreigner to ASL and I have no Deaf staff to ask about the language at this moment. So your sign for "lucky", Angus, is not the same sign as my sign for "lucky". But neither are wrong - they just "are". Your sign brushes. Mine does not. The brush is correctly written in your sign, but it would be wrong to place it in my sign, since I did not brush! Of course you should write the brush symbol if that is what your sign does ;-) Now...in regards to writing movement...you do need dark arrowheads, since those show movement with the right hand. If you write the general arrowhead as you originally did, that would mean that both hands move in the same path, and of course in this case, that would be impossible. The dark and light arrowheads are important when one writes true ASL, because Deaf people oftentimes will place their right hand on the left side of the body, or they will sign with both right and left hands in interchangeable fashion...and the information of right and left is very important in those cases. Therefore we make it a rule to always use the dark or light arrowheads for right and left hands moving. Below I have attached a GIF. I believe the first sign at the top was yours? Below are my two guesses as what you might want. I do not know your sign, so I do not know if you want it to rotate towards your body (the sign bottom left), or away from your body (the sign bottom right). The arrows on the rotation symbols are placed on one side of the stem line or the other side of the stem line, depending on how the movement is done. I know I need to improve my instruction on these arrows - I need better life like illustrations and I have not had a chance to get to those yet.... So I would like to close with one last thought - You wrote the original signs fine, Angus. Yes there were tiny things...but I still could see you were attempting to write a sign similar to the one I knew, so I got the point of your message anyway. But their is an irony to all this...you had once said you were not sure standardized spellings were necessary. And this is an example as to why some people want standardized spellings - because they don't want to have to learn those darned rotation symbols! They want someone else to write them for them - ha! | ||||||||
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