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Stefan Woehrmann Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 9:54 pm Subject: Re: Lucky | |||||
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> > Your rotation arrows were going in the wrong direction. The curved > part of the arrow paints the path of the baby finger rotating out > from the chin. Hi Valerie, Angus, *Joe and everybody I was sooooo confused when I read this! What do you mean by "wrong direction" . I looked at the sign again and again when I saw it the first time - (O.k . the arrowheads were wrong - no problem - black for the right hand - there hasnīt been any facial expression nor the area where to brush while the whole hand rotates while the forearm is up - Angus wrote the start position back of the hand showing to the right side - so rotation wouldnīt cause any brush ) In short - I didnīt understand - what was on his mind. So I asked for a more detailed spelling and offered various possibilities. As you can see in my gif - I stick to the direction of the rotation arrows - I have had no idea that it would be possible to say : Your rotation arrows were going in the wrong direction. How do I know - or should I know - what kind of rotation direction is on his mind ? How do you know ? I mean we are not discussing a meaningfull sign and its spelling in ASL -- we are just discussing a rotation - movement of the right forearm - the hand-shape allows a brush -contact with the middlefinger at the body exactly - as we learned later at the (edge) of the chin but I wasnīt informed about the rotation The curved part of the arrow paints the path of the baby finger rotating out > from the chin. Looking at my variations of the sign I realized that I had that in mind. The arrow written obove of the hand should indicate exactly what you discussed to be wrong/impossible? You can see that I made differences - palm to the left or facing the signer, and changed the point of contact -- You think he didnīt want it this way ? What made you believe this ? Why shouldnīt you move your hand (babyfinger) away from your chin while the thumb comes closer to the chin two times - performing a little brush contact with the middlefinger at the chin ? So not understanding your answer shows me, that I am in need to learn more about rotational movement - symbols ! (Big sigh !! Excuse me !!) See next message Stefan ;-) > > Here are the signs I know for "lucky", "luck", "for-for?" and > "smart". They all use similar movements. I am no great expert - a > Deaf person or native signer should write these signs... > > Mine are traveling forward, yours are in one place, but the rotation > is the same direction... | |||||
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