|SignWriting List Forum|
Stefan Woehrmann |
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: Lucky
> Your rotation arrows were going in the wrong direction. The curved
> part of the arrow paints the path of the baby finger rotating out
> from the chin.
Hi Valerie, Angus, *Joe and everybody
I was sooooo confused when I read this!
What do you mean by "wrong direction" .
I looked at the sign again and again when I saw it the first time - (O.k .
the arrowheads were wrong - no problem - black for the right hand -
there hasnīt been any facial expression nor the area where to brush while
the whole hand rotates while the forearm is up - Angus wrote the start
position back of the hand showing to the right side - so rotation wouldnīt
cause any brush )
In short - I didnīt understand - what was on his mind. So I asked for a
more detailed spelling and offered various possibilities. As you can see in
my gif - I stick to the direction of the rotation arrows - I have had no
idea that it would be possible to say :
Your rotation arrows were going in the wrong direction.
How do I know - or should I know - what kind of rotation direction is on his
mind ? How do you know ?
I mean we are not discussing a meaningfull sign and its spelling in ASL --
we are just discussing a rotation - movement of the right forearm - the
hand-shape allows a brush -contact with the middlefinger at the body
exactly - as we learned later at the (edge) of the chin but I wasnīt
informed about the rotation
The curved part of the arrow paints the path of the baby finger rotating
> from the chin.
Looking at my variations of the sign I realized that I had that in mind. The
arrow written obove of the hand should indicate exactly what you discussed
to be wrong/impossible?
You can see that I made differences - palm to the left or facing the signer,
and changed the point of contact --
You think he didnīt want it this way ? What made you believe this ?
Why shouldnīt you move your hand (babyfinger) away from your chin while the
thumb comes closer to the chin two times - performing a little brush contact
with the middlefinger at the chin ?
So not understanding your answer shows me, that I am in need to learn more
about rotational movement - symbols !
(Big sigh !! Excuse me !!)
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> Here are the signs I know for "lucky", "luck", "for-for?" and
> "smart". They all use similar movements. I am no great expert - a
> Deaf person or native signer should write these signs...
> Mine are traveling forward, yours are in one place, but the rotation
> is the same direction...