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Wayne in Maine Date: Wed Jan 26, 2000 10:30 pm Subject: Re: Is SignWriting like the IPA? | ||||||||
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Valerie - Although I don't know whether it has been officially recognized as part of the IPA, there is a standard system of writing tones in tonal languages using a five-tiered scale: --- high pitch In order to be able to see which --- mid-high pitch pitch is being referred to, a vertical --- mid-level pitch line is included, thus: --- mid-low pitch _ --- low pitch | (it should be connected) would refer to a high level pitch, /| would be a low to high rising pitch, \| would be a high to low falling pitch, -| would be a mid level pitch | /| would be a mid-falling followed by a rising pitch, etc. \/ | | It's hard to show what I'm talking about within e-mail text. If you'd like me to draw them as a GIF I could do that, if needed. Hope this helps! Love, - Wayne >From: Valerie Sutton >Reply-To: SignWriting List >To: SignWriting List >Subject: Re: Is SignWriting like the IPA? >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 06:43:52 -0800 > >> The IPA only has symbols for human speech sounds, including such >>oddities (in the sense that they are rarely found) as the "clicks" of >>Xhosa, >>Zulu, and a few other languages of southern Africa. I am sure, however, >>that there is no IPA symbol for an anal spirant, e.g. - Wayne > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >SignWriting List >January 26, 2000 > > >Hi Wayne - Thanks for the information.... > >So does the IPA record tonal languages in the East? For example, >could it record Chinese? > >Meanwhile, a linguist just sent me this information about the IPA, >which is very interesting: > >"The IPA could be used to write spoken languages on a daily basis and many >of >its symbols are from the Roman alphabet. The reason that it isn't used to >write many languages is because it was invented in 1888 and many languages >already had established writing systems. However, the IPA might be used on >a daily basis by speakers of previously unwritten languages. Linguists who >record spoken languages use the IPA (or some version related to it). So >some speakers of these languages might use the IPA if they want to write >their language. All I am saying is that the IPA might be used as the daily >writing system of some language. > >The IPA cannot write music produced by musical instruments, because it is >only for human speech sounds. But the IPA can be used to write the words >and at least some of the pitches of songs (but I don't know how detailed it >can be for song pitch). I have a friend that wrote a dissertation on >songs. >I can ask her if you want to know more about that. > >Yes, SignWriting does have a broader range of application since it can be >used to write all human movement, whereas the IPA cannot write all human >sounds (coughing, cracking knuckles ...). The IPA can only write human >speech sounds." | ||||||||
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