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Stefan Woehrmann |
Date: Mon Apr 17, 2000 9:01 pm
Subject: Re: Questions About Writing Depth
Hi Angus, Hi Bill and hi to all other experts in breast strokes -
I was so amazed to read your detailed descriptions. I went down to the
cellar. - You know - the spider with his push- ups
He told me, that both of you did an excellent job on this. Maybe that our
sport students get misinformed if they are asked to practice a different
position of the head - facing the bottom, the palms while the arms strech
forward - parallel palms down -
Would be great to see some gifs - can you arange that ?
Great - fun - too nice !
All the best !!
>From: Bill Reese
>Reply-To: SignWriting List
>To: SignWriting List
>Subject: Re: Questions About Writing Depth
>Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:14:46 -0400
>If I recall correctly. Correct me Angus if I'm wrong. :-)
>But doesn't the breast stroke involve revolutions of the wrist? The hands
>start out palms facing each other, touching or almost touching. Then you
>extend both arms in a forward stroke, keeping the hands flat, fingers tight
>together to minimize friction through the water. Just as you extend your
>arms as far as you can, you turn both palms outward and start to move them
>the outward circle to get back to the original position - imagine pushing
>something outward with your palms. As you go through the circle, the
>and hands rotate in a more complex movement. The hands bend slightly at
>wrist and stay that way for most of the circle. Then, just as you get to
>point where you need to bring the hands back together for the next stroke,
>you bend the hand further while rotating the wrists. What results is the
>fingers of the hands point towards each other while the palms are facing
>body. You move the hands towards each other and just as they almost meet,
>you change them to point forward, palms facing each other.
>While they are doing this, your elbows are bending to bring the hands back
>towards your body. The elbows also tend to be brought together when they
>in the start position, again to minimize the friction through the water
>extending your arms. And, of course, while the arms are doing this, the
>are going through a frog-like motion.
>If it is all done correctly, the head and shoulders are lifted slightly out
>of the water on the backstroke of the arms and legs (which move together in
>coordination). Usually the head is kept up and facing forward during the
>whole stroke. The back is arched back to allow this. The shoulders are
>usually kept back instead of moving forward when extending the arms.
>Did I remember right, Angus? :-)
>"Angus B. Grieve-Smith" wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> > > What is a breast stroke?
> > The way I learned it, your hands start down near the bottom of
> > your ribs and brush the body as they extend forward as far as they can
> > go. They then move out to the sides and back down, pushing you
> > forward through the water and completing the circle. The elbows are
> > when moving the hands forward past the body, and extended for the rest
> > the stroke.
> > > 1. Do the circles for the arms occur that far from the chest? - Are
> > > they very very far from the chest when the circles happen?
> > I didn't learn it with any circling movement at the end of the
> > extension; the movement is a single, smooth circle repeated until you
> > to the end of the pool. Is that the way that Danny is describing it,
> > Stefan?
> > > 2. Do both arms move at the same time in a breast stroke?
> > Yes.
> > --
> > -Angus B. Grieve-Smith
> > Linguistics Department
> > University of New Mexico