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From:  Valerie Sutton
Date:  Tue Apr 18, 2000  3:59 am
Subject:  Re: More wonderful features with .PDF!


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April 17, 2000

At 10:33 PM -0400 4/17/00, Angus B. Grieve-Smith wrote:
>
> I get the impression that they've more than made up for those
>costs by selling copies of Illustrator and other software based on
>Postscript technology. But regardless, they've given Postscript and PDF
>to the public as an open format, which allowed the development of
>GhostScript.

Yes exactly, and I have had good experiences with Adobe. They have
donated to our nonprofit before. Adobe seems more "approachable" than
other large companies, from my perspective. I also use almost every
product they have!

> Good luck! Acrobat Distiller is their main source of profit from
>PDF, and I don't think that Adobe is good-hearted enough to give it away.

That isn't true..they do donate to nonprofits in several different
ways. The DAC would not be making any money on it either - the copies
I am talking about would be a donation from both the DAC and Adobe
jointly...we would be donating the package to schools for the Deaf
around the country, coupled with SignWriter. And I know for a fact
that Adobe is interested in that kind of publicity. There are not
that many schools, after all - it would mean very little money from
their point of view...and I can give them publicity on our web site,
although I know we are small potatoes - at least I can try to
encourage the idea - if they don't want to participate that is OK too
- we will survive!

> If SoftPC and VirtualPC are good emulators, it should be possible
>to run the prn2file utility under them, since it makes no reference to
>actual print queues outside of DOS. Note, also, that you have to exit
>SignWriter and run prn2file again for each file you create.

Ah...thanks for telling me this, Angus. You see, I do not know DOS
like you do...I know exactly what I have to do in DOS to make
SignWriter function, and to release copies of the software etc, but
other than that I am a Macintosh person. I actually do not understand
your instructions at the moment, not because I can't learn them, but
because I am working on Macs so much that I have little experience
with Windows and Dos commands.

However, the Adobe Acrobat 4.0 came with both Windows and Mac
versions, so I will install the Windows version on one of our Windows
computers and try to create my first .PDF on a Windows
computer...once I do that I bet I can figure out your instructions
about GhostWriter.

And you see, because I am not an MS-DOS person, I did not realize
that I had to exit SignWriter to print to postscript...I tried and
tried while I was still in SignWriter in SoftPC, and it never
acknowledged the file, so obviously you know what you are doing...

> I think that GhostScript is the best answer. It's licensed under
>the GNU Public License, which means that it's free as long as you include
>a copy of the source code. And you don't even need permission to
>distribute it, as long as you don't charge anything more than the cost of
>the distribution medium (on top of whatever you charge for your
>SignWriter). It's also supposed to be faster and more versatile than
>Acrobat Distiller.
>
> I forgot to mention that Ghostscript comes with a batch file
>called ps2pdf.bat. As long as it's in the DOS path, people can just run
>that from their DOS windows: "ps2pdf test.ps test.pdf". That ought to cut
>down on the need for documentation.

Smile. I will be happy to use GhostWriter, but I will need
documentation personally, since I do not understand what a DOS path
is...I copy files, and make directories and format disks and do all
kinds of basic tasks in MS-DOS...but I have no idea what a DOS path
is! And I know many other Macintosh people feel the same.

You see the problem with the PC emulators, such as SoftPC and
VirtualPC is not that they are not outstanding emulators - they are
terrific programs...the problem is that Macintosh people do not know
the interface they are emulating - so we install those programs to
run DOS or Windows on our Macs, but we are disappointed when DOS and
Windows don't work the same way the Mac operating system does..and so
there is a gap in learning that has to be overcome.

I know that there are Mac emulators for Windows too, and I am sure
the problem reverses for Windows users!

But I will learn!

Thanks so much for this Angus- I feel real encouraged tonight -

Val ;-)

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Valerie Sutton


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  Replies Author Date
3229 Re: More wonderful features with .PDF! Angus B. Grieve-Smith Tue  4/18/2000
3234 Re: More wonderful features with .PDF! Valerie Sutton Wed  4/19/2000
3236 Re: More wonderful features with .PDF! Angus B. Grieve-Smith Thu  4/20/2000
3245 Re: More wonderful features with .PDF! Valerie Sutton Thu  4/20/2000
3241 Re: More wonderful features with .PDF! Stuart Thiessen Thu  4/20/2000

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