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Stefan Woehrmann Date: Sun Aug 6, 2000 9:13 am Subject: Re: Eyegaze & Happy Weekend! | ||||||||
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Hi Valerie and everyone, this is typical - and kind of mystery as well. When I got this message I had trouble to transcribe a DGS video scene. I didnīt know before that within this video the signer is seen almost for the whole scene from the side - his right shoulder facing the camera . This way he wanted to point now and then behind himself to point at a house located to the far left - This complicated matters that much that I stopped it - but got an idea how much practice and knowledge is necessary to transribe videos into SW. Concerning this video I asked myself : What is up here ? The reader of my SW-document wouldnīt be able to see the street and the houses behind the signer. So there is no reason to transcribe the whole scene from this sideview. Would be much better to position the signer in front and to make up the locations in the room where he can point at .Anyway - I understood that there are situations at the mastercourses (??? !!!) for transribing that we will need this diagonal back eyegaze as well. Thank you very much for your explanation. Stefan ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Valerie Sutton To: Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Eyegaze & Happy Weekend! At 11:53 AM +0200 8/3/00, Stefan Woehrmann wrote: >I think of my eyes as positioned at the back-wall -there is no way to go >back with my eye-gazes - in case I donīt move my head to the left or right - >instead of that I can look almost straight sideways if I really try (but >canīt see anything sharp - ouch!!) >forward diagonally up down, left , right - no problem - but back - how do >you do that ??? ;-) SignWriting List August 4, 2000 Hello Everyone, and Stefan - Thanks for this message about eyegaze. The "back eyegaze" is definitely used and cannot be thrown out, not only for receptive writing, but in other cases too. As you mention above, if you were to turn your head sideways, and then your eyes gaze sideways too (towards the reader), the eyegaze is directed towards the reader's chest...so the back direction of eyegaze is possible because it is based on space, and the direction in space, no matter where the signer is facing.... In other words....the bottom of your page is the reader's chest at all times. The top of the page is the front wall in front of the reader at all times. The signer can turn and face different directions, while the reader is the observer. When we are writing Expressive, the reader is viewing the back of the signer and becoming the signer. But the signer can turn to the side too....but the paper's relationship to space and the reader remains the same. So gazing side, while facing side, directs the eyegaze towards the reader's chest....so the "back" arrow is used in that case...once again, signers read these details immediately without questioning them - it only sounds difficult because we are using the English language to describe visual things.... The very reason I have been trying to work behind the scenes is to develop the teaching materials that will explain this properly....but that means little time for chatting online - I can't do everything, darn it!! ;-) I hope you all have a wonderful weekend....Monday will start a new week and many new topics....I hope you all enjoy the wonderful Norwegian article this weekend!! My best to all of you - -- Val ;-) ----------------------------- Valerie Sutton SignWritingSite: https://www.SignWriting.org To Post A Message To The SW List: SignWriting List Archives: https://www.egroups.com/group/sw-l | ||||||||
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